Insurance Bugs

amber · Post by **amber** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:40 pm

mine were blessed by a GM, they are subtly different to any other pair in UO, this means I once again win UO

blue · Post by **blue** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:22 am

if i got i-c armour i'd return it...easy to say and yeah i have had beef with some of you guys but ure a fun lot nad keeping armour just to piss some1 off aint fair.....neithers scamming it from people who thought u were a m8 eh angus?

Hanz Lorenzen · Post by **Hanz Lorenzen** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:02 am

i'd return armour no matter who it belonged to, what goes around comes around

Superfast Oz · Post by **Superfast Oz** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:39 am

I would like to think I would get my armor back say if I lost it tomorrow. But since when simply looking for a res after some fair fun pvp I get "fuck off asshole" and alike, I am not so optimistic. I kind of suspect whatever blues lifted my armor would see my losing it as suitable punishment for murdering ppl etc.

So I would give armor back to anyone I knew and probably other reds, but anyone else I would keep it or sell.

Nossi · Post by **Nossi** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:20 am

amber wins =)

Future · Post by **Future** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:53 am

Id return peoples stuff, except like the case on EU when Reborn Gremlins stuff dropped at my feet, the kid was such a fucking prick to everyone in game that i couldnt return, but then again most of it was shit!

But on Drachs i have no problems with anyone!

Nixon · Post by **Nixon** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:30 pm

Depends entirely on the item and person.

90% of drach people wouldn't get an item back from me. At the same time most wouldnt return to an I-C so I'm not really fussed.

If the item isn't of use to me or a guildmember I'd most likely return the item.

Thankfully insurence bug happens hardly ever (most of the time items arent insured even though people claim they are) so I never really worry about it.

Winder · Post by **Winder** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:13 pm

Insurance bugged items show the "insured" tag even when dropped.

Hanz Lorenzen · Post by **Hanz Lorenzen** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:23 pm

only exception is if i know someone will absolutely 100% keep my items if they drop then i will keep theirs in a box as trades for mine if they do drop

Stephanius · Post by **Stephanius** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:34 pm

I would return the items in question and even try to contact the owner.

If the owner deserves it I would make him or her sweat a bit, but it wouldnt change the end result.

Angus · Post by **Angus** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:51 pm

Even me Steph?

Fumin · Post by **Fumin** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:54 pm

and me? seriously i doubt it

tbh it depended who it was imo. EK / I-C / Any guild who i regularry interact with i would return, wats the point of stopping them interacting with u?

If it was a regular shittalker / ganker at gate then i would only take what i needed then return.

Chew · Post by **Chew** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:38 pm

As many mentioned above, there are many good reasons to return the stuff, like:
- keep someone in game for further fights/fun
- dont feel guilty yourself
- it could have also happened to you (most valid point IMO)

There is only one "valid" reason to keep such stuff :
- greed

But who likes greedy people ?

On my LS times there have been 4 major Fel/Champ/PK guilds and although many of them are big tards, worst cheaters and the biggest trashtalkers, but when an armor-drop happened from my knowldge the stuff were ALWAYS returned. - Once a guy kept an item.
Result was he was kicked out of his guild - and so aswell out of this Fel-community and became KOS - aswell the guild he was in replaced 1/2 of the value of that item.

The more people you can keep playing Fel, the more fun you could have I think.

Cheers
Chew

WildCat · Post by **WildCat** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:51 pm

Myself I am so evil, I would even keep the empty bottles. *nod*

Stephanius · Post by **Stephanius** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:42 pm

In a long fight with jo/$MH/1% today I killed a guy who had a nice SC warfork on him. It was personally blessed for 'Seth'. The char I killed was not Seth. So it was personally blessed, but on the wrong char.

Ernie asked for me a few minutes later and wanted to know if I would be willing to sell it back to the guy. I asked for the guy whos PDB it was.

Seth appeared promptly. (its the naked guy, not the unicorn/ninja git)
I guess he was happy when I just returned it.

Angus wrote:Even me Steph?

I knew that question would come, and I have already thought about it.

My contingency plan for SIN insurance bug items:

insure the items
lock them down on the porch of a public house
explain they are impounded for substance abuse, tax and import duty reasons but will be returned in due course if all is in order
let the situation simmer for a week while Angus makes twice the amount of his usual posts, so about two zillion.
make the house private to be sure I have no unwanted company at the unlocking ceremony
collect the items
arrange an in-game meeting
have the SIN member perform various ridiculous acts, like explaining why they love the items so much, juggling, or making the promise to move to another shard.
make sure the screenshots are in order
make some more screenshots
drag all the items to the SIN member
cancel the trade
say: only kidding, cu
make some more screenshots
repeat point 11
reluctantly tick the trade checkbox