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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:17 pm
by Deo
You guys make it look that DFels are indeed one of the poorest shards [pvp wise] but nothing more could be untrue. But we cannot deny the fact that the shard thier steady PvP community have left since the arrival of AOS, or even some time before that.
I rejoined DFels about the same time you guys arrived, and I do not get into more or less fights then (actually slighty less) then when i left the shard. But the game have changed, war guilds are turning into a myth and that is what DFels used to be, a large collection of diffrent warred guilds, almost none of us exept CMB had a player base of more then 20 ppl, with about 2-7 of them constantly fighting other guilds. Those were diffrent days, most other felucian guilds/travelers did not interfear with those fights, and there were hardly any cases of reskills/horsekill/cleanlooting [again, with the exeption of CMB and so called bloodwars]. Now most of them left, and those that were left behind do not know what to do, but they dont want to go to the current, invade and crush champ killers wave the other shards went true, maybe cos thier is noone to raid, maybe cos thier is no thrill in it for them (or like Ther pointed out, they prefer to get it on with thier old/own guildtag above thier heads, and thus beeing dropped out for the serious teamfights).

'So would it be fair to say Drchenfels is now more interesting and possibly more exciting than it has been for the last 18 months ?'

I dunno about that, you have actually scared away some kids who were happy owning them poor ppl during the FC4 patch, prevented some ppl who came back to go back into guildwars (*coughs* tc *coughs*). It may look to you guys you got a shardwide alliance against you, but to me, this shard have been never broken up like this before (and im not blaming you guys at all, if that is what you might think), the feeling that everyone was atleast a brother in war is, and prob will be gone for good. Its time to move on for some of us, cos the rest clearly did.

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:25 pm
by Noxin
Thing is Deo, that's what has happened everywhere. To a heavier extent even.
You can log onto any shard and see this.

I too miss the old warguild days, order/chaos and massive faction battles. But the game has changed, it's no-one fault, it's just the result of item based PvP, where any trammie with enough cash can become a threat purely through his items.

Trammel players often whine about the immaturity of PvPers, but I would say it's the opposite way around, it's the introduction of these item reliant pvpers that has spoiled the whoel "feel" of PvP everywhere.
Drachenfels is far less affected by this epidemic than most shards which is the main reason we enjoy it so much.
We're by no means trying to play down the pvp scene here (though it would be nice if more people logged on their reds instead of mass blues - I'm looking at you awesome CASH MONEY BROTHERS) in fact we often steadfastly defend the PvP of Drachs when talking to Euro players as they seem to assume it's just a walk in the park. Wheras from our experience this is far from the truth.

I never once regret moving to this shard, it's instantly become my favourite shard and new home simply because the pvp scene here is so fun and entertaining.

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:28 pm
by Nixon
Deo wrote:You guys make it look that DFels are indeed one of the poorest shards [pvp wise] but nothing more could be untrue. But we cannot deny the fact that the shard thier steady PvP community have left since the arrival of AOS, or even some time before that.
You forget that most of us have played on multiple shards so we are well aware of the situation on other shards so I think we are in the right place to make judgement.

If we honestly felt it was the poorest we wouldn't be here

a lil lesson in history ....

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:40 pm
by Drake
well.. some pics from the past and present days (range from reaaallyy old to yesterday :) ) + a few stories... but text is in german.. sooo..

http://thedarkknights.de.vu (blue and mixed)

http://thevegafamily.de.vu (from our reds)

pls.. don't give a fuck 'bout the design... its the pics that tell the stories.. har.. have fun :)

..and.. sadly... atm we do not have more than 4ppl online... because a few left.. got kicked out or are just taking a break... -> sucks...

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:43 pm
by Calix
I read through all your stories a while back Drake, some really good stories and pcitures.

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:34 pm
by Angus
Woah!

Why has no one mentioned SIN?
We were the only, all be it small numbered, PKs here until I-C/EVE came.
Sadly three out of the 5 of us quit (Doh!) and we are no more.

Im sure if you check the EK website, you will see how they "OWNED" us, but this is infact lies, even there GM, Stephanus quit because of us, due to us "Stalking" them, and many a GM was called on us for not "leaving them alone"

Alas im sure Biff will try to claim he used to own us all one vs one, and how he is the grand daddy of pvp..but its ok Biff, one day, you will kill me solo :)

@VIlla -

Drach "died" roughly around Publish 16, we had a very small pvp community, it was roughly:-

TC - Team Cow
$$: - Cashies (I once stole their guildstone, TEEHEE!)
RMC - You know RMC :)
BOH - Bitches of Hell (I was in them, back when i could PvP :p)

and i few others i cant think off the top of my head, we had alot of solo pvpers who i would claim were good, for example if anyone remembers, Buck, Kreysig (real one, not Biff), Ace of Spades (real one, the dexxer), Bad Boy (i believe he now plays Europa?) and Paul (who is gay :) ), Stody JoHnson, Code Corax, Seth von Saljeth, Burg, Orion, Smoke, and oh, ToXiN !!, and god so many others i wont even get into.

Anyway, all these players (par Buck, who was with the faction crew, oh and btw, we had a large faction prescence back in the day..sadly not now), sadly quit at roughly the same time, all were friends/enemys, we had no "neutrals" per say, and thus once your enemy was gone, or your friends, then..why play? So we had a MASS Exodus, TC at this time made a free shard, "Blitzkreig" and i believe all of us went to this for such a long time, a few, like myself, returned..although i hardly play to be classed as back..

And thats Drach, in the last year we've had a couple of Guilds dominating, then dying when the noticed no one was about to fight back, the guild i was part of, SIN, was imho one of the best PK guilds on Drach, im sure EK will call us lame gankers, but we were pks..thats what we did.

Anyhoo, thats just my idea on the pvp side, i was mainly a thief (The Rogue Tower guild) so im not top notch on my pvp stuff from the really early days.


(Note, if you claim to have seen any of the a bove characters its most likely it is a new owner)

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:15 pm
by Lady Redname
i hope you dont mean the same toxic that currently plays ^^


and bad boy, there was a bad boy on eu. fc 5 abusing guy id i remeber right, and he wasant good


although a few of the others you listed i know are good. but from recent performence toxic aint, and bad boy i only ever saw with fc4


i think you will find war guilds died on every shard

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:07 am
by WildCat
Bad Boy = Mark-O's dexer, or Mark-O's brothers dexer
I think I got a screenshot of him trash talking my corpse after ganking me with Armstrong (who had load of SDI and FC 3-4)

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:47 am
by Lady Redname
nah he wasant a dexer
dressed in white and had the hom

he was aos then went to com

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:22 am
by Calix
Logan's dexxer was Zannon Wild, Satan was Berit's, kal kristian was Armstrong's, don't remember them having a Bad Boy^^

Slamer = correct.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:01 am
by blue
yeah i am the new owner of kreysig...well i had the account for ages. SIN were by no means one of the best pk guilds on the shard so rofl @ angus.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:58 pm
by Angus
ToXiN, not ToxiC.

And Biff, when you can do more than run to guards from me one vs one, you can speak.
Until then, Cry More?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:58 pm
by Lady Redname
ah i read wrong



cause toxic aint what id call good

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:58 pm
by Lady Redname
ah i read wrong



cause toxic aint what id call good

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:02 pm
by Angus
Its np, name is very similar?

So whats your pks name? Unless its your board name..them..yeah keke.

Ive only pk'd with one or two of you, well, Duririn has EVE, but seems to accept the fact I heal him like a god.

Ive been with Zole a few times, i was pking with I-C for a while, till Kristoff attacked me, i had to attack back, then i got jumped by Junior keke, but tbh he had to defend his guild member, so its np np :)