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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:46 pm
by Witchcraft
Angus wrote:
Edit: I'd just like to point out here that loads of our people have reactivated UO becouse of the action we had fighting your alliance whilst hugely outnumbered
You gays (I-C and aVa) better not all quit now that THESCOTTISHHERO is back in UO.

Ill be fighting in an LRC suit and basic 2/6 combo but i expect both guilds to accept my war invites.

keke ;)

Joking all, there is alot of different arguments going on, but the one thing im hoping is true is that there is at least action going down now and again, this is alot better than doing barracoon with 10 blues :)
Some action, not alot it seems, mostly ava and i-c fighting it out with some DSoU tossed in the bargain now and then although they are always outnumbered and the only really good pvper they have is Kronos.

The blue guilds have just vanished, makes me sad to be honest :(

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:48 pm
by Calix
Witchcraft wrote:



Only a few of our old members have come back, if all had come back you wouldnt even bother fighting us cause you would loose 100% of all fights...
Nice random egoing. Quite a few of our better PvPers don't play anymore. In fact aside from Zole and Morth(And Nix if he had a playable connection) none of our best mages play. People like Zim, Senji, Fatal, Cyric. People that don't play don't count i'm afraid.

I've noticed on your signature on PvP forums you have Victorinox in your guild? Was he like a comedy addition to add the worst PvPer you could find?

PVP! at the time of our alliance was and is about 10 active members, we were 3 active in .aVa, thats the huge alliance youre talking about.
Bud posted a picture of that Hythloth harrower and admitted you had 16 players, and Corbin then posted that he wasn't there. So that's AT LEAST 17.

About hacks, one of our guys run speedhack, Horizon use treehack, not necessarely because he love it, but because he didnt make a security copy of the files he was changing and he couldnt bother reinstalling it :)
Yeah we must be using every cheat in the book...
I don't care about stumphack, easyUO, or any kind of client mod if people want to use it. Speedhacking on the other hand is was and always will be beyond the pale to me. I'd presume someone who claims to be 'oldschool' like yourself would remember that's how it's always been in PvP communties.
Bottom line is, you outnumber us now, we left PVP! alliance to make it a more even playingfield, and now you are getting mass numbers and trying to defend the fact that you are at this time the biggest active guild on drachs and you bring the most single-guild players to any fight around, I dont really have to say anything more, its a fact.
I wouldn't worry. Everyone came back to fight the mass numbers of the PvP!/ava/Leet alliance. People will be quitting UO again soon(In fact one person already quit due to boredom last week) now that you've split and the action seems to have completely died down.

..and please don't try and make it like we're "getting" mass numbers to fight you. I don't know one person in the guild who would pick an 8 man team over a 4, but if we're all online, we're gonna play together.

Soon we'll be reduced to fighting ourselves anyway like last time Drach died.

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:53 pm
by Noxin
I read your post just fine. He's justifying using razor by saying UOA doesn't work. that's a bullshit excuse, just like some guy on your forum claimed he only runs the full client mod because casting fields crashes him. (is it the same guy? I cba to check, sounds likely though)

If you don't like, don't do it. Spare me the sob story that there's not much you can do about it, you asked me that question earlier. Fact is .aVa use client modifications and cheats to help them in PvP. you can't deny it, it's sitting right there, an elephant in the room. Unlike native guilds who cry hax everytime you kill them, we aren't idiots.

Almost every shot I saw on your own forums involved some sort of client modification. It was you who bought up the whole omg I-C cheat because some guy had stump active from an old install. Yet the same day you turn round and say that exact scenario is fine for your member and doesn't help at all, along with stuff that's far, far gayer.
There's a word for that.. something like hippo critics.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:53 pm
by Zamp
Well, you can do a lot more things with Razor then with UOA... thats almost the same as a speedhack man!

I ping about 60-80 in good days/nights and about 120+ on bad... I still can play with that... Well i die sometimes because i see it 4 sec laters when im poisoned... 8) - and i don't use speedhacks... !

i started playing ultima online on a 450mhz, 128mb sdram, 64mb onboard card computer - you can't tell me, your pc is crashing because of these low quality field/trees...

Good fight, good night !

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:59 pm
by Witchcraft
I dont know what razor does, never downloaded it, never tested it, never used speedhacks, never used stumphacks, never used anything, and that goes for most of our members, only 1 use speeder, and hes weird, 1 use stump, 1 use razor, a few weeks ago I-C used stumps as well.
Just the fact you guys talk about programmes ive never heard of tells me about your extensive testing of illegal mods, so shut up Noxin..

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:00 am
by Calix
I don't really know about Razor. Not something i'm ever going to use though as I know of at least one person banned solely becouse of it.

Speedhack = ruins PvP = unacceptable. Used to be speedhackers weren't accepted in PvP communties. Sad to see anything goes now.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:05 am
by Zamp
Used Razor for a freeserver some years ago...

You can make some rly sick makros with it, as i know.

it's like EUO.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:05 am
by Joe
Witchcraft wrote:I dont know what razor does, never downloaded it, never tested it, never used speedhacks, never used stumphacks, never used anything, and that goes for most of our members,
1 uses speeder
1 uses tree stumps
1 uses razor
1 uses field hax
and you use nothing

how many active in your guild atm 5-6 did you say? i would say your idea of most is quite different to mine,

and MOST other peoples too lol

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:09 am
by Witchcraft
1 use the entire bag of tricks, 1 use stumps cause he cant get it away from his computer, and one use razor which he use as a replacement for UOAssist and have no extensive macros in it..

Anyways, im done discussing this.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:09 am
by Noxin
Yes, Noxin is a major hacker, or didn't you know?

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Though to be fair you probably don't know my history with the game and I'm sure it could appear that way.

Just to add to what you said, only a few use cheats.. You listed 3. As you just said you field 6, isn't that half your guild?
Also razor has extensively more ability than UOA, I've fiddled about with that in particular in quite a lot of detail.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:14 am
by Benn
This thread has made me lol

and I don't even play UO

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:25 am
by Lady Redname
Soon we'll be reduced to fighting ourselves anyway like last time Drach died.
Soon?

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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:26 am
by Joe
just 3?

candyman who uses speeder
scatman john who uses tree stumps and field hax (http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3513/uo0123ln6.jpg)
horizon who uses tree stumps(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/ ... UO0178.jpg)
and antihero who uses razor (http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6467/63314907xf3.jpg)

i'm no super maths wizard but thats more than 3 in my book

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:29 am
by Lady Redname
i think candyman and scatman are the same guy


(btw, i pulled best sig out of archives)

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:57 am
by Angus
Soon we'll be reduced to fighting ourselves anyway like last time Drach died.

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Was that the event you guys organised, teams of 3 across the LAND OF SOSARIA.

Me, Winder and, er, someone. BEST TEAM.